the comment about, this is not chuck hagel's war, what john mccain said, john mccain clearly is coming from a different time in terms of the military and military action. if we look of the history books, we need to stop taking advice from these guys who were in the military and start looking at people who actually have served as opposed to the couch starker's -- talkers. host: can i ask you to review the relationship and how it has evolved between john mccain and chuck hagel? they came in both veterans of the vietnam war, both friends, yet their relationship evolved and there is some question as to whether or not john mccain will support chuck hagel. guest: it has evolved. there was a natural affinity between them because of their service in vietnam. knowing senator mccain the way i do, i do not know senator hagel, he has always been somebody who reaches out to a variety of different folks. he has an immense number of friends on the other side of the aisle. he is a very personable person. i do think over time, the differences between the two senators about iraq, afghanistan, and other